Hi @DAX

I'm reaching out because I really don't know what else to do at this point. I have now paid for several downloads of my current VN because I have to keep fixing scene branching problems that are non-existent in the preview I view online, where everything plays just fine, but show up in the version I download to my PC. It's very frustrating to say the least. If I identify where the problem is on my PC, along with the scenes and where they should be branched, do you think you would be able to look at it from your end and possibly help me find what the problem is? I just don't wanna have to keep paying to download this over and over and not making any process.

Thanks for your time.

@CountKrew what is your VN, please link it here. Also, please be more detailed. Tell us which scene is causing the problem. If it happens on a certain page, please let us know what is the page number. We cannot tell what causes such a problem if you cannot identify the details.

We need information that allows us to recreate the bug to be able to fix this.

If we are sure this is a bug, please don't worry, your points will be refunded.

@DAX lol. No problem. I wanted to be sure you'd be willing to look into it for me before I went pouring my heart out. Okay, first thing's first, here's the link to my VN Sorry That You're Dead: 

https://cloudnovel.net/project/visualnovel/map/1aXrTNZhPoUTnNqAWw

When I made this post yesterday, the issue I referenced concerned Truth or Dare 4 - Shane. There are four Truth or Dare - Shane scenes, all are branched to Enough - Shane, both in the scene and page management consoles. However, on my PC, number 4 is going to Butcher Bruce - Ruthie, which is all the way on the other side of my link tree and branched to two different scenes. 

I've also identified new problems as I check the PC version for reference in this post today. These issues weren't there previously. Truth or Dare 3 - Shane, for example, stops halfway during the scene. It just won't advance at a certain point no matter how many times I click, though the game itself hasn't crashed as I can still go back and load different scenes. Also, the scene Twisted - Shane, which is branched to Truth or Dare Start - Shane, is suddenly going to Truth or Dare 3 - Shane. Furthermore, the latter scene is all black. None of my images show up. Just text. This was never a problem before.

I'm not sure if this is happening because I have the PC copy open while I have Cloud Novel running in my browser typing this post, but it's like these issues just literally cropped up out of nowhere.  Very strange.

So that's where I'm at now. SO very close to being done with this, but there always seems to be technical issues that stop me from getting to the finish line. I hope I have provided you with enough information to troubleshoot this on your end and appreciate your help.

@DAX correction on the new issue. It's Truth or Dare - Start - Shane that's stopping in the middle of the scene. According to the online version, the problem occurs at Page 51. The music is playing. The cursor is still blinking, but beyond that, the scene won't progress. Like I said, this was not an issue until today, and I downloaded this fifth version of my VN several days ago.

@CountKrew So after checking this a few times, I didn't get the new problems that you've had. If the bug cannot be reproduced, unfortunately, we cannot solve it.

However, the one that you've troubled with since the start; Truth of Dare Shanego to Butcher Bruce does happen to me. And I found that this also happens on the online preview, not just offline.

I will contact @Sonya so she can take a look and fix the bug for you.

@DAX So to be clear, are you saying the stopping in the middle of the scene didn't happen to you? If so, that's a relief as it could've just been related to running two resource-hungry apps both on and offline at the same time. Hopefully that is the case.

The Truth or Dare is certainly the biggest issue that I've been dealing with for weeks now and caused me to have to download the game multiple times. I'm at least glad to know that I'm not totally crazy and it is showing up on your end. I appreciate your help and will be on the lookout for the fix.

CountKrew said: @DAX So to be clear, are you saying the stopping in the middle of the scene didn't happen to you? If so, that's a relief as it could've just been related to running two resource-hungry apps both on and offline at the same time. Hopefully that is the case.

@CountKrew Yes, to be sure, I also open my browsers with multiple tabs (at least 10 of them and at least five of them is your game scenes) and played the game while checking the offline download.

@DAX okay, cool. Just wanted to be sure. Like I said, that one literally just cropped up while I was typing my message to you the other day, so maybe it was just some one-off fluke. Once we figure out the issue with the scene branching, I can finally be done with this project and move on to the next. I'll be checking daily for your response.

Thanks for your time!

Hey there @CountKrew, I did some investigating into your game. It looks like you made scenes you had copied from previous scenes which still had a go to scene branch that pointed to the original path. That's why your scenes are going all over the place, because the new scenes that you copied are still pointing to the old scene's go to scene paths. 

It's not a bug with the engine, you just have to go into all the new scenes you had copied into, and fix all the go to scene options so they point to the right scenes, in the correct path, otherwise they will go back to the original scene's old path. 

Hey @Sonya The copied scenes is definitely by design as they are meant to be similar. I thought the old links thing may have been the issue too, but that certainly wasn't the case as of my last correspondence with @DAX.

For example, the scene in question, Truth or Dare 4 - Shane. It was linked inside of the scene and branched to Enough - Shane. Yet on the PC version, going to Butcher Bruce - Ruthie. However, today, all of a sudden, when I check inside the scene Truth or Dare 4 - Shane online, it's suddenly not linked to any scene at all (None). I don't know if something changed within the last couple days or what, but it wasn't like that before. I checked dozens of times before and during my recent posts made here in the forum, just to make sure I didn't look like a total idiot.

To my understanding, there are only two places that scenes connect: the branching feature alongside the scene management tree, and the "Go to scene on end" section at the bottom of the "Edit Page Dialogue" box inside the scene. If there's somewhere else I should be checking, please let me know. 

I guess I'm gonna have to go back over this yet again, but as of today, it was only the one scene I specified going to the wrong scene. Did you see more than one problem area? If you can identify them, that would be very helpful.

Having worked on this project tirelessly and invested a lot of resources into it already, I just don't wanna have to keep paying to download this thing over flukey issues that weren't there before, if that is the case. It's very confusing because everything will look fine when I preview the whole game online, yet I've seen all these problems show up after I pay to download what would essentially be the final product I'm trying to share with others.

I hope you understand where I'm coming from and that I'm not trying to be difficult. Just very frustrated at this point.

Thanks for your help.

@CountKrew

I understand your frustration, but I think you're not understanding why the scenes are going to the wrong scenes. 

You copied the scene from another scene, however, in the newly copied scene, all your buttons had go to scenes going to the previous path's scene. 

The reason why it says "none" is because I changed it last night and made it go to "none" for testing purposes. I have reconnected the scene since then.

Let me explain:

In your scene Truth or Dare - Start - Shane, your second choice on page 32 called "DARE" is going to a scene called Truth or Dare 4. This scene is a scene from Ruthie's path, not Shane's path. However, because you copied the Truth or Dare - Start - Shane scene originally from Truth or Dare (start) scene, which is Ruthie's path's starting scene, you forgot to change the "DARE" choice button on page 32 to go to Truth or Dare 4 - Shane, instead you kept it as Truth or Dare 4, a scene that goes to Ruthie's path. 

That's why when I am in Shane's route, suddenly I go to Butcher Bruce - Ruthie scene when I am on the Shane storyline path.

So please understand, this is some that YOU have to do. The scenes you copied over into the new paths must have all their go to scenes connections changed to the new scenes so they go to the correct path.

@CountKrew

I also reimbursed your points and given you 10,000 points as an apology for the frustrations you're going through. Let me know if that is enough for you to make your downloads.

@Sonya I understand what you're saying and will go back and check over everything to make sure it's good.

Thanks for the free points and all your help!